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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:21 am 
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HELLO All, first timer here.... Question??... I have a Denon TT DP51F in near mint condition with older Grado brown gold cart with new stylus.
I was wondering is there a new break in time for the new stylus , or was that break in time for the old cart.? and how long
do I wait, because this set up sounds bad, running thru KEF FLOORS by way of DENON PMA777 amp.. all advice would be greatly appreciated.. Thank you in advance....


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:46 am 
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new carts do need a break in time....how long (? ) depends.

are these 3 things ( tracking force, alignment, azimuth ) all correct ? usually, you install a new cartridge, let it play for a bit ( maybe a few days ) and check everything to make sure its still good and do little tweaks here and there....and listen again for a couple of days and check again if needed.

its just not install the cartridge and your done type of thing.....


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:06 pm 
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I'm reading this as the OP just installed a new stylus and it "now" sounds bad? Did it sound good before the stylus change? If so, make sure the stylus is installed correctly. The Grado carts/styli can sometimes get a little of that black grease on to the contact points of the cart and/or stylus. Check to be sure these are clean.

I agree that you should probably revisit the setup.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:08 am 
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Hello All.. Thank you for quick response, my local tech set up my TT. It sounded ok at his shop but that was thru
his bench speakers, but when I got home and hooked it up sounded bad from the get go. As it stands now I think I will buy a new cart, around $150-200 range any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks you in advance, I have been away from
vinyl for about forty years, great to be back...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:55 am 
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Please explain "sounding bad". What is the exact problem?

Also, you are running this through a phono stage set to MM (moving magnet), correct? You can't plug this into a line level input, must be phono.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:05 am 
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Hi, all first let me thank all who donated there time and vast wisdom on this subject. I went and bought a new Grado green cart for my DENON sounds wonderful. I setit up myself, not bad for an old Hippie.. tracking at 1.5 grams. again Thank you all....
now to get down to some serious music......this is a great forum


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:16 am 
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"new carts do need a break in time."

Ok, I'll bite.
Why do new cartridges need a break-in?
Aside from the obvious user physical tweaks,
what exactly does a broken-in cartridge do that a new one doesn't.


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