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 Post subject: Phono preamp: New vs Old
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:10 am 
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Has anyone compared any new entry level phono preamps to well designed, reasonably priced "vintage" phono stages (like the stage in the NAD 1020, 1155 or 1600 for example). Trying to decide if I should upgrade...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:38 am 
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Hi From Atlantic Canada!
IMHO - I'd try other phono sections. I've owned several NADs over the years, including a 701 receiver that I still use at the summer place. Even used to have a PP1. My advice is try other outboard phono sections. Without exception, I've always found the NAD (MM) easy to improve upon. Right now I use the 701 above with a Gram Amp 2 (not SE).


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:07 pm 
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I had an old PS Audio III. I now have a Jolida JD9. I have heard others and this Jolida blows the old ones away. Of course mine is highly modified.
Take a look at my project over on the Vinyl Engine: http://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_fo ... 19&t=39598
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 am 
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I like the Pro-ject phono tube box II, especially with upgraded tubes. It beat out the Vincent Pho-8 2 box setup.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:03 pm 
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As far as the old? You might consider a "THIEDRA" Servo Loop Pre-Amplifier from G.A.S. (Great American Sound). It is the top of the line pre-amp from GAS which was paired up with the AMPZILLA Amplifier back when GAS CEO and Chief Designer JAMES BONGIORNO put solid state on the map as an alternate to tube amps for audiophiles. James later designed a complete set up updated PC Boards which made an already fantastic and proven design even better.I have an original production Thaedra which is an incredible sounding pre-amp without question (especially at 35+ years of age). I ALSO own and use in my own system, James Bongiornos personal (fully upgraded and updated) Thaedra which was used at trade shows (CES) to demo his latest amplifier creation the AMPZILLA 2000 line from his latest company venture Spread Spectrum Technologies up until his health declined and later his passing in Jan 2013 (RIP). In my opinion and own limitatioins to only what others Ive heard,This is more than a worthy contender to whats available in the solid state pre amplifier market today,Especially at the price range most people could even consider a realistic possibility to afford.Just my own opinion but you might consider A THAEDRA if you decide to go for the old stuff!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:30 pm 
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I have a Technics SL10 with the coveted 310MC--doing the research into the best amplification for this low output .28mv MC cart. Go full phono route or SUT step-up into an MM input. Unlike my McCormack preamp which is used for everything BUT phono, how much do i want to spend on just the analog amplification... That's the question--and so many options out there.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:26 am 
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scottm_dj wrote:
I have a Technics SL10 with the coveted 310MC--doing the research into the best amplification for this low output .28mv MC cart. Go full phono route or SUT step-up into an MM input. Unlike my McCormack preamp which is used for everything BUT phono, how much do i want to spend on just the analog amplification... That's the question--and so many options out there.


To the person (scott_dj) who posted this... on the rear of your SL-10 there is a switch that will turn on the built-in MC head amp, allowing you to go straight into any MM phono stage. The SL-10 built-in MC head amp is quite worthy so I would try that first before spending any additional money.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:46 pm 
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Trying to decide if I should upgrade...

What are upgrading from?
The NAD preamps are bottom of the food chain. Pleasant, but not particularly hifi.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:02 am 
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My best-sounding phono preamp has been a Superphon Revelation Dual Mono Phono Preamp.
It had two volume controls instead of a balance...and the sound !- the sound was natural, sweet, musical...even when played into more transparent systems than mine.

I loved seeing the surprised & almost incredulous reaction of the person who had unhooked their Audio Research or Audible Illusion tube preamps to plunk in my Superphon and listen. Their negative expectation was due to the fact that looked like it had been built with Radio Shack parts ( they were NOT low-quality - just the chassis, while sturdy was not faced thick brushed aluminum and fancy lettering).

Find one, try it.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:57 am 
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With the OPs' original post nearly 3 years old, I have a feeling he's moved on by now.

Seeing that this was his only post in the forums so far, I doubt seriously that we'll ever know what he finally ended up with.

C'mon mtb_ww, fess up! :)

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